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Do Fish Deserve Animal Rights?
Yes!  86% 12 votes
No! (Why?)  14% 2 votes
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fireballneko



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    16th of Sep '16 @ 8:48 PM Hasnt voted yet!


I have a question for you guys: Do you believe that there need to be animal rights laws for fish? We all know how you can have your dog taken from you, or maybe even be arrested if you abuse it, but that is not the same with fish. It is perfectly okay for pet stores to knowingly sell containers that are too small, sell food that is not edible, and sell decor that is just WAITING to tear off a fish's fins. That would not be acceptable if it was done to other types of animal.
Studies show that fish are extremely smart, and feel pain, anger, joy, and other emotions, and are perfectly sentient beings. They can also remember their own name, and recognise their owners face. They actually react with happiness when they see you!

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    18th of Sep '16 @ 10:14 AM Voted for Yes!


@fireballneko

i agree w/ you! fish are incredibly mistreated. i think a big issue is that employees at pet stores aren't... really taught how to care for fish? some of them are unknowingly putting fish into dangerous or unsafe conditions.

more than anything, there needs to be more awareness about fish needs, for lack of a better term.



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    20th of Sep '16 @ 11:17 AM Voted for Yes!


@fireballneko Of COURSE! ALL living creatures have feelings. They feel pain, joy, sadness, even depression. So yes, fish, as any other animal companion should have rights. Some of my most wonderous animal companions have been fish...especially goldfish and an algae eater named Lazarus...I kept thinking he was gone, then he was fine, then thought he was gone, then he was fine. Also a dear goldfish named Scrabus, one named Roarke, and another named Gambler...were all especially close to me. Thanks for bringing this up...it deserves attention! smile_heart.gif



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    3rd of Dec '16 @ 12:14 PM Voted for Yes!


There is an issue with that sort of thing... I love my fish, give them medicine when sick, give them a pinch of food every morning and night, and every week clean their tank! I feel this is a good way to take care of them, saying none have died for years! smile_meow.gifsmile_heart.gifsmile_heart.gif



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    3rd of Dec '16 @ 11:44 PM Voted for Yes!


I think so, I think the only problem is since fish are also a food source and the mistreatment of pet fish is so rampant I think it'll be pretty hard to get them protected by animal rights.

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    15th of Apr '17 @ 3:26 AM Voted for No! (Why?)


No. The last thing needed is even more well meaning but misguided legislation and rules.

I love fish, I've worked in a specialized fish store and later had my very own fish shop. I've found many people are uneducated when it comes to fish and their needs. I try to match Mother Nature when matching the sized aquariums and diets to the particular species of fish.

Did you know that the 'horrid tiny cups' that betta fish are in are for the benefit of the fish? Nature designed them to live in tiny mud puddles. Placing them in a huge/deep tank is dangerous to them.



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    15th of Apr '17 @ 1:18 PM Voted for No! (Why?)


I'm not quite sure. I think there should be a limit to how many fish go in a certain size container, and that dangerous decor should be... well, not dangerous anymore, but I don't really think that will stop anyone from breaking the "rules" if that makes sense. It's not like anyone can be punished for keeping a little fish in a small and dirty habitat. So I guess I think that there shouldn't be laws against it.

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    15th of Apr '17 @ 3:41 PM Voted for Yes!


Honestly, I don't think it should be legal to keep a fish as a pet. They cannot live out their natural life in captivity and should be left in their naural habitat.



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    16th of Apr '17 @ 1:10 AM Voted for Yes!


In general, I find that people really do not understand what they're getting into when they purchase a fish. They're so commonly given to children as "first pets" because, in a sense, parents see them as disposable and easily replaceable. It's sad because you can go to Walmart, purchase a fish for $0.25 and take it home without having to prove that you're capable of caring for that fish. They're not meant to live in a cup of water--they need filtration and proper water care.



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    16th of Apr '17 @ 1:25 AM Voted for No! (Why?)


I have had several extremely long lived fish pets that would beg to differ about not being kept in a tank/bowl smile_happy.gif many have outlived their natural lifespans with me, and certainly some fish are flourishing in captivity, with koi and goldfish being handed down generations.

@Nati while the .25 cent price tag is dismaying and many children start off accidentally killing the fish, the ones you purchase for that price are feeder goldfish. That's not to say some can survive and become fantastic pets and very long lived speciments, but they are behind the genetic 8 ball to begin with. Breeders breed them by the millions as they are food for other fish.

I never condone people intentionally killing or harming/abusing any animal, but I feel letting children have their first fish like this can teach them many things about caring for a fish, and about life in general. Even properly kept, a lot of pets have very brief lifespans, so it can be helpful to teach children about life and death (not that it should be the reason to get the pet fish, just saying it can be helpful).

To me, the biggest plus to getting and keeping fish is learning about how to care for the species you have. You work with their parameters to set them up for a long, and very healthy lifespan. A fish tank can teach a child about water quality (why it matters!) what pH is, why some fish that live in slightly acidic waters shouldn't be kept with those that come from more alkaline waters, etc.

It can be a fantastic doorway to teaching a youngster about chemistry with the little water kits that are sold to detect things like amonia, nitrite and nitrate, plus the pH kits. All are used when learning to cycle and then continue to maintain a fish tank, and that's not even dipping into the fascinating realm of saltwater. You can get them started with saltwater by teaching them brackish fish.

I guess to me, teaching a child or adults about how to care for and match the proper water qualities for a fish, gives them a window into the world the fish live in. It gives them a love for their pets, teaches them how deeply important water quality is, and that can transfer over to the environments the fish originally come from.

Oh, and that is a delightful difference, unlike back in the '80s and '90s when so many fish in the industry were wildcaught, many of today's fish are actually bred very successful from adults that have been captive raised in their own right. It lessens the burden on the wild fish and aquarists today have a better chance of keeping and raising their own batches of new pets that are in better condition than those in the wild smile_heart.gif

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    18th of Apr '17 @ 7:19 AM Voted for Yes!


There's a weird line here between rights and hypocrisy, when it comes to eating a once-living thing. However in the case of fish as a pet creature, yes, I think they deserve to have just as much right to a decent, safe environment as anyone else. They're a lot smarter than people think, and some beta fish will actually play with you (it's the cutest thing)!

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    18th of Jun '17 @ 11:23 AM Voted for Yes!


I notice that most of these posts are regarding pet fish, which is interesting and I hadn't really thought about. TBH considering a fish a "pet" gives it a huge leg up over its fellow fish--it's going to get attention and care and decent shelter etc.

Currently the big issue in animal welfare legislature is farmed fish. Particularly, that there are no humane regulations regarding slaughter. Studies are finally showing that fish definitely feel pain (duh), and it's a battle now to make farmers put in the extra cost and effort for safe and humane slaughter. At least in some countries; I know it varies from country to country.

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    6th of Jul '17 @ 10:16 PM Hasnt voted yet!


To some extent, yes.

I don't agree with many pet stores with the conditions in which they allow their animals to live. (I once saw 100+ goldfish in a 50-gallon tank) But as Megrim said, pet fish do lead pretty cushy lives. My pet fish get their tank cleaned often, fed every day, and treated with medicine. My guppy wouldn't have lived for 3 years in the wild, but she's goin' strong right now.

But as farmed fish go, I think it's inhumane. There are many laws prohibiting such conditions for our four or two-legged critters, so why not our aquatic amigos?

But as fishing goes, I think they've got pretty good laws on it (at least here in my small town), but then again, I usually catch and release. Unless if it's a legal salmon. Put a lil' rosemary an' lemon on that, and I'll call it dinner!


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    9th of Jul '17 @ 9:24 PM Voted for Yes!


I know I'm gonna get a fish when I'm living on my own, so I'd like to get a fish from the pet store that isn't mistreated or in a dangerous situation before I even get there. Fish are wonderful, I love fish. It's such a shame that as pets they're not protected by any laws.

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    1st of Jan '18 @ 7:48 PM Voted for Yes!


This is... interesting. Based on what you're saying, I'm gonna go with yes, but I haven't really considered the issue before now. Thank you for making me aware of this!

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    16th of Jan '18 @ 6:43 AM Voted for Yes!


Fish are life too!

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    17th of Jan '18 @ 12:33 AM Voted for Yes!


@Hamchung77 You're so right - and all things have an inborn right to live their lives unhindered, as happily as possible, without being mistreated, neglected, or abused.



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    17th of Jan '18 @ 1:23 AM Voted for Yes!


@Lokki

Very well said smile_heart.gif

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    29th of Jan '18 @ 2:20 PM Voted for Yes!


I've seen the mistreatment also. Especially with the Betta fish.

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