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Tilas



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    15th of May '14 @ 5:14 PM


I cannot stand chat speak and people who are too lazy to type coherently and spell a work properly. Don't give me any excuses, if you're old enough to be on a website/forum you're generally old enough to know how to spell, or know how to use a spell check. Browsers like Firefox include one for pity's sake. It's the digital age, kids are learning how to use a PC by kindergarten, so poor typing skills is unacceptable. Sure the odd spelling error is find, but when ppl tlk lke dis omg lol it #$%^&* me off. Take the extra millisecond and USE A VOWEL. If you wouldn't type that way in a classroom or a job site, there is no excuse for typing that way on a forum.

Some people say they do it that way because they're ESL ( English second language) but, no, sorry, that doesn't fly either. It's easy enough to tell someone who is learning to type a language versus someone who is just a lazy little git. So there's you're debate topic. Am I wrong? Do you chat speak? If so, why? Are you just afraid of spell check? And yes, I do know of the spelling error in my title. Did you notice it?



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    15th of May '14 @ 5:33 PM


I see what you mean, I don't get it either why people are using chat speak all the time, because there's a reason why we should learn spelling and grammar at school. I learned English as a second language and I'd feel stupid to have learned it correctly but using it in a wrong way with chat speak. I guess you're right and most people are just too lazy to check their spelling or they are using chat speak because everyone else they know are using it. And yeah, the spelling mistake messes up the layout XD



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    16th of May '14 @ 4:49 PM


The biggest excuse for this crap that really pisses me off? "We're not in school dude."

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    17th of May '14 @ 12:13 PM


i use chatspeak (abbreviations, lack of / excess capitalisation and punctuation marks) because it's easy and i enjoy typing that way. if someone wants to typ lyk dis then good for them?? i hope they're having a great time.
no one needs excuses to use chat speak. if you want to use your best english skills, you go and do your thing but i really don't see why anyone would dictate what someone else talks like on the internet.
sure, there's 'i don't understand what this person is saying' but i'll eat my bike before i believe that's the case for being pretentious as hell and waging a war on people who are just having a good time on the internet.

tl;dr if i'm not sending you a job application it's none of your diddly darn business what i, or anyone else types like.

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there's also people with learning disabilities and people for whom it's just more difficult to always use correct spelling and grammar who you're not taking into account.



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    17th of May '14 @ 12:22 PM


If people are incapable of typing correctly, I can understand that. It's when people are all out LAZY about it that I cannot stand. You can type just fine if you CHOOSE to. Why be lazy about it? You need good typing skills for most forms of employment these days, and it doesn't take any more time to type like an intelligent human being rather than make yourself look like an uneducated child. Because honestly, that's how I see chat speakers as, children. I lose a lot of respect for people who do not make an effort to type correctly, because YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT. It just shows laziness and carelessness, and I can't take people seriously when they type like that.



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    17th of May '14 @ 1:35 PM


@Tilas
how do you know when someone is incapable or is just lazy? do you know what every person with a learning disability out there types like? do you care, considering you just related chatspeak to a lack of intelligence? and unless you have a sensor telling you who is using chatspeak / incorrect english on purpose, they're apparently all children too.

other than that, i'm not sure why anyone who uses chatspeak should care what you (or any of the other naysayers) think about their way of chatting online. i just fail to see the value of your opinion or why you think you have the right to tell anyone, 'no, you can't talk like that, you have to talk like this'. i just ?? don't see it.



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    18th of May '14 @ 12:32 AM


Hence the whole point of a "debate" forum, I said my opinion, now people say theirs and we debate it. smile_tongue.gif



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    20th of May '14 @ 5:23 AM


Augh I hate it ! Everybody should have a good writing. It's really important to have a good spelling, you need it for everything today. I don't accept it, except for cases like huge learning disabilities where people can't really deal with it...

I'm sorry for my horrible english, it's not my mother tongue. Please feel free to correct me whenever you notice a mistake !


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    22nd of May '14 @ 11:49 AM


I'm not going to say that I like chat speak, but, I will say that depending on the situation, I think it's ok.

On forums such as this one (debates, etc.), proper spelling and punctuation is important. You are trying to convey an opinion with your own thoughts. If your words are hard to read because you decided to post in chat speak, your meaning, message, context, and sometimes credibility is lost.

On the other hand, if I am talking to friends, I have no issue with people using chat speak within reason. A simple lol or ttyl is perfectly acceptable to me. You know, sometimes I will say something incorrectly on purpose to be silly. Where is the harm in that?

I will admit though, that excessive chat speak is difficult to understand. I don't want to be reading I lIkE CaTs AnD iCe CrEaM. It's kind of disorienting and can be hard to decipher as it get more and more complex.

Attributing chat speak to a lack of intelligence though is a little extreme in my opinion. There are so many other situations that just do not do this statement justice. Someone could be autistic or unable to communicate well due to a disability. That doesn't make them unintelligent. Sometimes, their disability can get in the way of their writing but that doesn't mean anything because intelligence comes in many forms.


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    24th of May '14 @ 12:50 PM


I don't have a problem with chatspeak unless someone is using it to the point that I actually cannot understand what they are actually trying to say.

It's much faster to be able to type without using proper capitalization and punctuation. A lot of times I will purposely misspell words for "comedic value" when talking with friends(e.g., gurl u so silly, thx, etc). It makes us laugh. I know how to string together grammatically correct sentences, but I just don't bother trying to be 100% grammatically correct all of the time.

Also you posted in your original post "...there's you're debate topic" - its supposed to be your debate topic. I'm not trying to be rude or condescending, you just seem like the kind of person who would actually appreciate having their grammar corrected? (Sorry if I'm wrong).



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    24th of May '14 @ 10:35 PM


Actually I don't mind it when people point out if I pull a grammar error. smile_laugh.gif Usually I'm on the ball about it, but occasionally I'll miss something.

I never could understand how it can be faster to not use punctuation and capitalization, but then, I was taught how to type in Kindergarten so... it's pretty much just second nature to me. I find trying to NOT use proper typing skills slows me down a lot more than just typing normally.



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    17th of Aug '14 @ 6:50 AM


I prefer reading someone's text when the grammar/spelling is correct, but on sites like this I definitely do not judge people if it's not.

Correct spelling and grammar doesn't come naturally to everybody. Some people really struggle with it and I don't think they should feel pressured to put a lot of thinking into the grammar of their sentences when they're just typing something on a website that they use in their leisure time. I personally think "we're not at school" is quite a valid excuse to use chat speak.

However if someone were to send me an email that was somehow considered serious, I would judge them if it was full of errors. And when my college professors send me emails with errors or make tests full of errors, I cannot take them serious anymore.



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    21st of Aug '14 @ 4:08 PM


Like @xdudeitsemily said, it doesn't really seem like a big deal unless they use it to the point where you can't read it, but you know what really annoys me? when people capitalize every single word in a sentence, it makes it much harder to read, I don't care what they say it REALLY doesn't make it look better. smile_unsure.gif



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    21st of Aug '14 @ 4:35 PM


I chat speak a lot, usually when I am being sarcastic or want to annoy the grammar/spelling freaks. c;




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    24th of Aug '14 @ 1:26 AM


it's stylistic preference. the internet has its own dialect.

maybe i'm just online too much. smile_tongue.gif



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    24th of Aug '14 @ 2:37 AM


it is the same difference as abbreviating for roleplay smile_tongue.gif
Does not make me any difference.

If I do not know what someone is talking about, I simply ask.....no issues





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    6th of Jan '15 @ 1:48 PM


What really grinds my gears is when people are using the letter q as the letter g instead. ex: lauqhinq instead of laughing.

Like honestly, how does the letter q look like the letter g? I mean are that lazy to not press the letter g on the keyboard to use the letter q as a g instead.

I use some chat speak as well like, lol, omg, etc, and I also know that my grammar and spelling are wrong as well, but at least I take the time to fix them before I submit it to people that I don't know. With friends, I don't care as long they understand what I'm trying to say than I'm okay with it. But if your just going to use chat speak for everything (minus the people who learning disability of course.) than I seriously have no hope for you.

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    6th of Jan '15 @ 9:53 PM


I've learned a lot of chat speak since I got my iPod, but would I use it? I've turned OFF my autocorrect because of how annoying the thing is. It wants to put my words into chat speak! For many people I just want to say, "Excuse me, but can you please use backspace and retype that so I can read it?"
I love the internet, but I think the internet is really degrading correct spelling. At least learn how to use the SHIFT and BACKSPACE keys. I was raised with my parents having very basic cell phones (as in Nokia phones with green screens). They taught me how to use my grammar and English language skills to talk to people. I love English, it's one of my best and favorite subjects in school. Because of that, I want to show intelligence. (No offense to anyone here, there are people with English as a second language.)
I don't want to be classified as lazy. There are times when I will use abbreviations like 'lol' and maybe 'brb', but I'm not using it all the time. There is no excuse for laziness.

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    22nd of Jan '15 @ 9:29 PM


idk i think chatspeak isn't as bad as people make it out to be

like, maybe i'm playing devil's advocate or w/e you wanna call it, but i think it's an ok thing. language and slang evolves, and people eventually adapt to it. i don't think that, realistically, anyone types L1K3 7H15 4 5R5 who exceeds the tender age of twelve years smile_laugh.gif

if i'm in a rush and i'm on my weird touchscreen phone, of course im gonna wanna leave out my apostrophes n shorten my sentences n type less proper 2 u

but, i don't think that is necessarily a bad thing, or something that shows lack of education or whatever else anyone says it signifies. some people have a hard time with typing because of dyslexia, or maybe they have a kid in their arms, or maybe they just wanna chill after writing a long paper!

i think ppl should be more patient with the way other ppl type, and put things in2 consideration b4 making judgements smile_laugh.gif u never know the real reason some1 could be typin the way they do!

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    24th of May '15 @ 1:48 PM


I agree. I find that not practicing correct spelling can be damaging since you eventually start spelling words that way. It's basically a bad habit.

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    7th of Sep '15 @ 3:12 AM


Posted by jaeger


i use chatspeak (abbreviations, lack of / excess capitalisation and punctuation marks) because it's easy and i enjoy typing that way. if someone wants to typ lyk dis then good for them?? i hope they're having a great time.
no one needs excuses to use chat speak. if you want to use your best english skills, you go and do your thing but i really don't see why anyone would dictate what someone else talks like on the internet.
sure, there's 'i don't understand what this person is saying' but i'll eat my bike before i believe that's the case for being pretentious as hell and waging a war on people who are just having a good time on the internet.

tl;dr if i'm not sending you a job application it's none of your diddly darn business what i, or anyone else types like.

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there's also people with learning disabilities and people for whom it's just more difficult to always use correct spelling and grammar who you're not taking into account.



Agreed.
For example, on tumblr and to my friends, I use simple chatspeak like "u" "2" "ur" etc
Because it's fun. And silly. So what if people use it? It's their life and..even if it's because they're lazy, who cares?

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    9th of Sep '15 @ 5:19 PM


imo. it's like politics; we all hate it but it's part of life and it can't be avoided.


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    10th of Jul '16 @ 3:56 PM


Personally I HATE autocorrect. Try fighting it while purchasing from a shop during a restocking event!!!! smile_unsure.gif

P.S. Mr. Ray Bradbury once pointed out that writers are the worst spells there are.



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    13th of Jul '16 @ 5:55 PM


Yeah, I pretty much use chatspeak in certain situations.

It's harder to convey a more friendly or casual tone over text, so when I talk to close friends I use a bit more chatspeak. We're not business colleagues, I'm not their professor and they're not mine, so there's no necessity for excessive formality. We already respect each other after all, and we don't need proper language to communicate.

TL;DR: Pals get chatspeak because it's casual, strangers/non-pals don't.

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    21st of Jul '16 @ 4:23 PM


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The biggest excuse for this crap that really pisses me off? "We're not in school dude."

I agree with this completely since a lot of my friends not on Icepets don't use your, you're, their, there, and they're correctly. I don't mind people not putting periods or missing a comma, because it's not really that annoying. I don't even mind not putting capital letters, because it's become a form of aesthetic I think? But, what absolutely grinds me gears is when people type like this: Hi! Let Me Tell You A Story About A Jack And Jill Who Went Up A Hill
I don't mind if you use abbreviations here and there, but if you typ lik tis ten our frendshp is ovr



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