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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:13 PM Voted for For the change!


As you know, we have a huge problem with the amount if morphing potions on site, and it's only going to get worse.

It has been suggested in the staff forums that we change the following:
- We replace all current Morphing Potions with Snowjars of that color. This means if you currently have a Traptur Halloween Morphing Potion, it would be turned into a Halloween Snowjar.
- We create Morphing Potions only for pet species, not color. This means if you use a Wulfer Morphing Potion on your Xephyr, your Xephyr will turn in a Wulfer with whatever color your Xephyr was.
It will not work if that color doesn't exist for the said morph.. E.g. You own a Evil Makoat and want to turn it into an Evil Ridix. The color does not exist so the Morphing Potion will not work.
However, if you own a Ancient Wulfer and wish to turn it into an Ancient Xephyr, you would just need to obtain a Xephyr Morphing Potion.
- Snowjars will be for colors only, just how it currently works. The only change is that this will be the ONLY way to change the color of your pet.

Now we want you opinion on this change.
Are you for or against it?

Facts:
We have approx 220 Potions. We have gained these all over the past yearish.
Pet color demand is increasing, how many potions will we have next year?

We also have 220 Potions and 12 Species.
What happens when we get another species?

We need ideas to fix this if you don't support this change.



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:19 PM Voted for For the change!


I like it! It's way more organised. I'm all for it, fosho (:



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:20 PM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


NO. NO. NO. X_x

1) Restocking MPs is part of the entertainment of the site. This is just a lazy way out.

2) Most users could complete their closet in a few seconds.

3) No colors would be rare any more. With all the SJ stocking in place of MPs, what feels like one of the primary objectives of the site would be useless.

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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:21 PM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


I say no because the problem is that they would have to restock soo often to make up for all of the missing morphing potions. This would cause the prices to be really low and there just wouldnt be enough variation in items.



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:22 PM Voted for For the change!


If you still retain the old species of your pet that you had before the morph so that you can switch back and fourth just like it is now, then yes, definitely for the change.



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:26 PM Voted for For the change!


I'm for this change this would make it a lot faster for me to make new per colors for you guys.

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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:26 PM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


Posted by ekwag


I say no because the problem is that they would have to restock soo often to make up for all of the missing morphing potions. This would cause the prices to be really low and there just wouldnt be enough variation in items.




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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:29 PM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


No. Just make potions have less availability.
If there's a larger supply than demand then simply cut the supply.

Have them restock much less.
And I say don't put them in the ICE shop

and ultimately the ICE shop will ruin Icepet's economy

I mean, 5 or 6 months ago IP:NP was 1:10
now it's 1:1

...see the problem here? Its gonna turn into Marapets where it's 20:1





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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:30 PM Voted for For the change!


Basic colors would be common and special colors (Ancient, Evil, etc) would be come rare to obtain because of the demand.
All these morphing potions have been created over the past year. What will it be like next year? It's a huge issue that can't be ignored. x.x

Pet Requests are going up, and we can't keep producing morphing potions for every pet, there's already too many.

This option stops this becoming an issue. Common colors are still common. Rare colors are still rare. Yes, there will be less items, but we need that; for potions at least.
Morphing Potions will be a mix of easy and hard to obtain.



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:32 PM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


Instead of making a MP make a snow jar.
You don't HAVE to have a MP for every species-color combo.

But that doesn't mean you don't have to get rid of MPs either. Just make less MPs but keep what you have.




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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:33 PM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


I'm against this same opinion as erik




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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:34 PM Hasnt voted yet!


Won't the amount of potions there are on site currently be fine once the site gets more members, and possibly blows up in that category?



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:36 PM Voted for For the change!


I say sure... why not, just have to make more sjs...



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:36 PM Voted for For the change!


Posted by Blake


Won't the amount of potions there are on site currently be fine once the site gets more members, and possibly blows up in that category?


http://www.icepets.com/search.php?q=morphing+potion

It seems messy to have random morphing potions and snowjars if we suddenly stopped making morphing potions.. :/

We're open to suggestions to change this issue.



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:39 PM Voted for For the change!


I say I'm for the change because it would make it easier on you guys. I know running a pet website/making new ideas is an extremely difficult task, and the economy will always find its way. Even if it means morphing potions are no longer the most popular/expensive. The fact that you guys brought this to our attention is enough evidence for us to see that we obviously need a change, so I say go for it! If it was MY website, I would personally want the easiest option possible. I would think that anyone else would, too, if it was theirs.

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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:42 PM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


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I say I'm for the change because it would make it easier on you guys. I know running a pet website/making new ideas is an extremely difficult task, and the economy will always find its way. Even if it means morphing potions are no longer the most popular/expensive. The fact that you guys brought this to our attention is enough evidence for us to see that we obviously need a change, so I say go for it! If it was MY website, I would personally want the easiest option possible. I would think that anyone else would, too, if it was theirs.
Taking the easy way out isn't a very good way to run a website imo.

The main thing I do on this site is restock in the Snow Jar Igloo. Very rarely do I restock a snow jar. It's almost always morphing potions. So if the main reason I play this is taken away then why would I want to play anymore? smile_unsure.gif



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:45 PM Voted for For the change!


Posted by Skill


Taking the easy way out isn't a very good way to run a website imo.


I do agree with this, however, I'd apply the easy way out with less popular pet websites. Though I suppose when you think about it, Neo wouldn't be as far as it is now if they took the easy way out :/ I don't know...I guess really I'm more in the middle XD

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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:49 PM Voted for For the change!


How about this:
Basic Morphing Potions. (Green, Yellow, etc.)
Snowjars for special colors. (Evil, Ancient, etc)



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    25th of Apr '12 @ 11:53 PM Voted for For the change!


Ugh this is hard. I see both sides of the problem and I agree something needs to change - and having random MPs or only SJs wouldnt work... i think we should go with the last two ideas in the first post(:

Edit: oh thats a good idea too... and i also thought of something, what about colors that only exist for one species like the pinata dabu? There would be no point in converting that into a snow jar


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    26th of Apr '12 @ 12:00 AM Voted for For the change!


Taking the easy way out isn't a very good way to run a website imo.


I take a bit of a offense to this. Were not being lazy here we are trying to find a better way to fix this issue. The staff here works damn hard every day to make this site great. The money we save means more new items, feature and pet colors for you.

We are not trying to be lazy. We are trying to improve the site to work more efficiently.




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    26th of Apr '12 @ 12:01 AM Voted for For the change!



We're focusing on filling out all our colors, so it a SJ would be fine for it. smile_happy.gif

And here some facts.
We have approx 220 Potions. We have gained these all over the past yearish.
Pet color demand is increasing, how many potions will we have next year?

We also have 220 Potions and 12 Species.
What happens when we get another species?

See the problem? x.x



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    26th of Apr '12 @ 12:06 AM Voted for For the change!


I'm going to elaborate on why I think this is a good idea, and why I support this further.

After reading the comments, I feel that this decision is not only better for the website in terms of orginization (despite the fact that some gameplay aspects are sacrificed) But that it is on a whole better for the artists.

I don't believe that by doing this the team is taking the "easy way out". They are simply making the process of producing more content simpler.

I'm new here, yes. Correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand, new pet colors that are special, will need a special pose for the pet, which takes more time than producing a coloration for an already existing pet template. We have to ask ourselves what we want the team to be investing their time in- the potions requiered for every color on every new species and coloration, or producing new content, possibly even new pets, for the game?

With snow jars its simpler-new colors can be added through coloring the snow jar template differently. Old colors won't need a new morphing potion- already existing snow jars can be used, and the artist can invest their time in coloring a new pet's template accordingly, rather than templating and coloring a new morphing potion over and over again. Instead, one morphing potion will cover the need to transform the pet.

I'm guessing that this is how its done. If I'm wrong, correct me-I'm only assuming that this is how the artists work, but from prior knowledge I'm willing to bet that this is probably a part of the reason for the change.



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    26th of Apr '12 @ 12:35 AM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


Posted by ekwag


I say no because the problem is that they would have to restock soo often to make up for all of the missing morphing potions. This would cause the prices to be really low and there just wouldnt be enough variation in items.

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    26th of Apr '12 @ 12:38 AM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


As someone who loves to fund new colors and pets, I am at a loss.

I love the challenge of having to track down all the MP and SJ's (that I didnt fund) and buying or trading for them. It makes my account look great and shows how determined I am to be a productive member of this site.

Yes, I have bought some with ice cash, but most I have tracked down, saved tokens, traded etc for.

I love the thought of using just say a pie for the prank pets, but its also wonderful having a halloween mp for a jakrit instead of just using a jar.

and didnt it say in the news, we were going to just finish painting the current colors until they were all used up before doing new colors?



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    26th of Apr '12 @ 1:00 AM Voted for Against! (Post your reasons)


I'm against this change really. I mean allot of people joined knowing the site for the way you have the potions now. And i'm sure a change that takes the easy way out like this would more then likely either upset some of those people, or they might just stop coming all together.

Granted i know sometimes we all want to take the easy way out of things, but that doesn't always work, on a site, or in RL.

I like the way the potions are set up now honestly. And i think changing them might more then likely mess the site up. And i really don't want to see this place go down hill.

If it wasn't for the MP as they are now, i'd more then likely still would be working to make Savhin the way he is now, seeing how it would have taken two things just to get him this way. One to change his race, then one to change his color.
See, it would make it more work for the members if the staff took the easy way out of this one. And it would also mean the members would have to work to get more IP just to change there pets and such like that.

So, yeah all out i'm against this change.



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